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	<title>Hugo Jonker &#187; Thunderbird config</title>
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		<title>Thunderbird+Lightning not processing ICS attachments</title>
		<link>https://sandcat.nl/~hugo/blog/?p=1176</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In some cases, Thunderbird+Lightning plugin (calendar plugin) do not process an email with an attached ICS file as a calendar event. Bug report. Yet another years-old bug not being handled :s. Anyway, workaround: open the Today Pane (F11) and drag&#38;drop the ICS file on there. Interface isn&#8217;t brilliant, but it works for now.]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="/~hugo/img/thunderbird.jpg" style="margin-right: 10px;" align="left" height="100" alt="Thunderbird logo" title="In pursuit of the ultimate Thunderbird configuration">In some cases, Thunderbird+Lightning plugin (calendar plugin) do not process an email with an attached ICS file as a calendar event. <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357480">Bug report</a>. Yet another years-old bug not being handled :s.</p>
<p>Anyway, workaround: open the Today Pane (F11) and drag&amp;drop the ICS file on there. Interface isn&#8217;t brilliant, but it works for now.</p>
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		<title>Exchange + Google calendars in Thunderbird</title>
		<link>https://sandcat.nl/~hugo/blog/?p=1065</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2015 17:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part 2 of getting set up. Obviously, I have an Exchange calendar. Obviously, people are going to be using that to gauge when I&#8217;m available. So I need to manage that calendar in a way that works. Enter the Lightning plugin for Thunderbird! With the previously mentioned DavMail, you can get your exchange calendar in [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="/~hugo/img/thunderbird.jpg" style="margin-right: 10px;" align="left" width="100" alt="Thunderbird logo" title="Thunderbird configuration and use tips">Part 2 of getting set up. Obviously, I have an Exchange calendar. Obviously, people are going to be using that to gauge when I&#8217;m available. So I need to manage that calendar in a way that works.</p>
<p>Enter the Lightning plugin for Thunderbird! With the previously mentioned DavMail, you can get your exchange calendar in Thunderbird. Which kind of beats Microsoft&#8217;s web interface &#8211; though not by much.</p>
<p>I also added a Google calendar via CalDav (which works directly with Lightning). Adding and deleting events is nicely synchronized :) Adding another (big) Google calendar, however, borked the overview (appointments no longer shown), though the list above the calendar still showed correct info.</p>
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		<title>Connecting Thunderbird to an Exchange (Outlook) server</title>
		<link>https://sandcat.nl/~hugo/blog/?p=1060</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2015 12:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, my new employer uses Exchange servers for email (i.e. Outlook for clients). I&#8217;m not on an Outlook-supported platform, so that&#8217;s not ideal. DavMail to the rescue! It&#8217;s a piece of software that runs under Windows, Unix and OSX. What it does: it translates the secret Exchange-Outlook mail protocol into public protocols (POP, IMAP, SMTP, [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="/~hugo/img/thunderbird.jpg" style="margin-right: 10px;" align="left" width="100" alt="Thunderbird logo" title="Thunderbird configuration and use tips">So, my new employer uses Exchange servers for email (i.e. Outlook for clients). I&#8217;m not on an Outlook-supported platform, so that&#8217;s not ideal.</p>
<p><a href="http://davmail.sourceforge.net/">DavMail</a> to the rescue! It&#8217;s a piece of software that runs under Windows, Unix and OSX. What it does: it translates the secret Exchange-Outlook mail protocol into public protocols (POP, IMAP, SMTP, CalDav, LDAP, &#8230;).<br />
And it works quite beautifully! Though you&#8217;ll need openjdk-7-jre for it to run.</p>
<p>Next, you can <a href="http://davmail.sourceforge.net/thunderbirdimapmailsetup.html">set up Thunderbird</a> to get your Exchange mail via DavMail (username at the OU: <tt>XXX@pwo.ou.nl</tt>). And it works beautifully!</p>
<p>In related news: it seems you <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312619">cannot stop Thunderbird from checking an account</a>: if you&#8217;re online, it&#8217;s trying to check that account. Annoying if you have an old account to which you no longer have access (but have a local archived copy).</p>
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		<title>Thunderbird&#8217;s context menu disappears</title>
		<link>https://sandcat.nl/~hugo/blog/?p=810</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like cleaning up my inbox. Right-click a message, &#8220;move to&#8221; and select a folder. Except that sometimes, I right-click a message, but before I can select &#8220;move to&#8221;, the context menu is gone again. Annoying. Apparently, I&#8217;m not the only one. Work-around: minimize the window and then restore the TB window again. The bug [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="/~hugo/img//thunderbird.jpg" alt="Thunderbird logo" title="Thunderbird!" width="125pt" align="left" style="margin-right:10pt;">I like cleaning up my inbox. Right-click a message, &#8220;move to&#8221; and select a folder.</p>
<p>Except that sometimes, I right-click a message, but before I can select &#8220;move to&#8221;, the context menu is gone again. Annoying. Apparently, <a href="https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/right_click_menu_disappears">I&#8217;m not the only one</a>.</p>
<p>Work-around: minimize the window and then restore the TB window again. The bug is still being hunted, as far as I can tell.</p>
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		<title>Thunderbird&#8217;s &#8220;get mail&#8221; button broken?</title>
		<link>https://sandcat.nl/~hugo/blog/?p=680</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 07:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m quite happy about Thunderbird (mail reader). Yes, I&#8217;ve had my struggles with it (as those of you who follow this blog know), but in the end, it all works. All? Almost all. There is one button, no matter how hard I try, I cannot get to work. You see, Thunderbird has a &#8220;Get mail&#8221; [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="/~hugo/img//thunderbird.jpg" alt="Thunderbird logo" title="Thunderbird!" width="125pt" align="left" style="margin-right:10pt;">I&#8217;m quite happy about Thunderbird (mail reader). Yes, I&#8217;ve had my struggles with it (as those of you who follow this blog know), but in the end, it all works.<br />
All?<br />
Almost all.</p>
<p>There is one button, no matter how hard I try, I cannot get to work.<br />
You see, Thunderbird has a &#8220;Get mail&#8221; button. And I press it and press it, but do I get mail? nooooo&#8230;.. ;-)</p>
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		<title>Updating Thunderbird on Ubuntu</title>
		<link>https://sandcat.nl/~hugo/blog/?p=676</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My Ubuntu 11.04 at home was still running the old Thunderbird. The old, end-of-support-almost-reached Thunderbird. Time to fix that. Lessee, open Thunderbird and look for &#8220;update&#8221;&#8230; nope. Hmms, get updates for Ubuntu then? &#8230; nope. Hmms. Okay, let&#8217;s do this the hard way. Download the new TB, run it&#8230; hey, that looks a lot like [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="/~hugo/img//thunderbird.jpg" alt="Thunderbird logo" title="Thunderbird!" width="125pt" align="left" style="margin-right:10pt;">My Ubuntu 11.04 at home was still running the old Thunderbird. The old, end-of-support-almost-reached Thunderbird. Time to fix that. Lessee, open Thunderbird and look for &#8220;update&#8221;&#8230; nope.<br />
Hmms, get updates for Ubuntu then? &#8230; nope.<br />
Hmms. Okay, let&#8217;s do this the hard way. Download the new TB, run it&#8230; hey, that looks a lot like my old TB! &#8220;Help > About&#8221;&#8230; it <b>is</b> my old TB?! WTH?!<br />
Okay, turning to the Google for more updates.<br />
Aaah, here&#8217;s how it&#8217;s done: tell your system updater to include packages from Mozilla, and then it should work.<br />
Test one: err, nothing to update?<br />
Test two (a few days later, different package-address included): still nothing??<br />
You know what, this is silly.</p>
<p>And just when I was ready to give up:</p>
<ul>
<li>sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa</li>
<li>sudo apt-get update &#038;&#038; sudo apt-get install thunderbird</li>
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<p>Apparently, there are all sorts of mozilla-related valid words (e.g., combinations with &#8220;security&#8221; and &#8220;release&#8221;) you can enter after &#8220;ppa:&#8221;. Some of them work , but don&#8217;t update your system. Such as the aforehinted mozilla-security-ppa and mozilla-release-ppa. This one does.</p>
<p>@Mozilla: is this really necessary? Just provide some sort of warning with pointer to the right location in the non-updating PPA&#8217;s, would you?</p>
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		<title>Time in Thunderbird</title>
		<link>https://sandcat.nl/~hugo/blog/?p=637</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The time of messages in Thunderbird always used to be annoying (i.e. non-24hrs format). This post explained what that&#8217;s due to: Thunderbird takes your default locale and presents time in the view due to that. Somehow, the default locale it took was not my default locale (LC_ALL=C). So, to fix this minor annoyance, I changed [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="/~hugo/img/thunderbird.jpg" alt="Thunderbird logo" title="Thunderbird!" width="125pt" align="left" style="margin-right:10pt;">The time of messages in Thunderbird always used to be annoying (i.e. non-24hrs format). <a href="http://lildude.co.uk/howto-customise-thunderbird-date-format">This post</a> explained what that&#8217;s due to: Thunderbird takes your default locale and presents time in the view due to that.</p>
<p>Somehow, the default locale it took was not <b>my</b> default locale (<tt>LC_ALL=C</tt>). So, to fix this minor annoyance, I changed the Thunderbird launcher to <tt>env LC_ALL=C thunderbird %u</tt> (where %u passes arguments &#8212; I just left it there).</p>
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		<title>Thunderbird default sort view fixed</title>
		<link>https://sandcat.nl/~hugo/blog/?p=600</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, so my previous post on the default sort behaviour of Thunderbird was largely correct &#8212; I just need to learn to read instructions better :) In a nutshell, I set mailnews.default_sort_order to 22: sort by thread (where previously I tried 18 and other combinations of settings). Le duh. Now It Works(tm)]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="/~hugo/img//thunderbird.jpg" alt="Thunderbird logo" title="Thunderbird!" width="125pt" align="left" style="margin-right:10pt;">Okay, so my <a href="/~hugo/blog/?p=568">previous post</a> on the default sort behaviour of Thunderbird was largely correct &#8212; I just need to learn to read instructions better :)</p>
<p>In a nutshell, I set <tt>mailnews.default_sort_order</tt> to <tt>22</tt>: sort by thread (where previously I tried 18 and other combinations of settings). Le duh. Now It Works(tm)</p>
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		<title>Thunderbird: attach file keyboard shortcut</title>
		<link>https://sandcat.nl/~hugo/blog/?p=598</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 12:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="/~hugo/img/thunderbird.jpg" alt="Thunderbird logo" title="Thunderbird!" width="125pt" align="left" style="margin-right:10pt;"My my, isn't this becoming the blog on my software tips?  Yes, yet another.  Thunderbird by default doesn't have a keyboard shortcut to attach a file. Moreover, the evolution shortcut CTRL+M is already in use for a new message (similar to CTRL+N -- equivalent result, though it looks like they use different internal calls to get there). My solution: install the <a href="http://mozilla.dorando.at/readme.html">KeyConfig</a> addon, and configure a new key: CTRL+ALT+M as binding, code: <tt>goDoCommand("cmd_attachFile")</tt> (note: no &#8220;;&#8221; at the end!), and voila, you can attach messages with CTRL+ALT+M!</p>
<p>And yes, there&#8217;s a similar extension called Nostalgy, which hides this behind Esc+A. I tried it, and it worked&#8230; if I kept Esc pressed while pressing A. That&#8217;s awkward. This is way better :)</p>
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		<title>Thunderbird default view</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More Thunderbird news: how to set default view. It is possible, though in an awkward manner. The trick: use the config editor (Edit &#62; Preferences &#62; Advanced &#62; General), and fix the view according to this comment in Thunderbird&#8217;s bugtracker bug about this. I like my mails threaded (in all folders), and sorted with newest [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="/~hugo/img//thunderbird.jpg" alt="Thunderbird logo" title="Thunderbird!" width="125pt" align="left" style="margin-right:10pt;">More Thunderbird news: how to set default view. It is possible, though in an awkward manner.<br />
The trick: use the config editor (Edit &gt; Preferences &gt; Advanced &gt; General), and fix the view according to <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86845#c74">this comment</a> in Thunderbird&#8217;s bugtracker bug about this. I like my mails threaded (in all folders), and sorted with newest on top. You can set this per folder, but I want to do it once and be done with.</p>
<p>To do this:<br />
I want descending (sort_order: 2), date-sorted (sort_type: 18), threaded (view_flags: 1) mails.<br />
So change the relevant <tt>mailnews.default_*</tt> values to reflect that :)</p>
<p>The comment in full (to safeguard, and in case your settings don&#8217;t match mine):<br />
(PS: Note that according to <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86845#c102">comment 102</a>, further below, the linked comment had <tt>_type</tt> and <tt>_order</tt> swapped. That&#8217;s changed below.)</p>
<pre>Prefs are named as follows; first three apply to Mail and RSS folders, the second three to Newsgroups.
  mailnews.default_sort_order
  mailnews.default_sort_type
  mailnews.default_view_flags
  mailnews.default_news_sort_order
  mailnews.default_news_sort_type
  mailnews.default_news_view_flags
In about:config  (Tools | Options | Advanced | General, Config Editor),
you can enter "news._def" to filter out all the prefs but these.

sort_type:
  byNone        17         byPriority    23      byLocation    29
  byDate        18 *       byStatus      24  	 byTags        30
  bySubject     19 *       bySize        25  	 byJunkStatus  31
  byAuthor      20 *       byFlagged     26 	 byAttachments 32
  byId          21 **      byUnread      27 	 byAccount     33
  byThread      22         byRecipient   28 	 byCustom      34
    * = commonly desired values
   ** = by Order Received (?)

sort_order:
  ascending   1
  descending  2

view_flags -- the second group of values can be added to one of the first group to combine effects,
with several limitations:
  Unthreaded       0
  Threaded         1
  Grouped         64  [mail only (?)]

  ShowIgnored      8  [news only]
  ShowUnreadOnly  16
  ShowExpanded    32  [doesn't seem to work]
ShowUnreadOnly will check the View|Threads|Unread menu; this will cause only
unread items to be seen, but doesn't force a threaded view.</pre>
<p><b>Edit</b>: of course, afterwards I find the <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/sortpref/">add-on</a> to do just this :)<br />
<b>Edit 2</b>: Again, no convincing case&#8230; not sure if this works &#8230;<br />
<b>Edit 3</b>: Nope, it doesn&#8217;t work. :(<br />
<b>Edit 4</b>: see next post, kind of got it working.</p>
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